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oly cow, this is the most lucid description i've ever come across. This could seriously replace about 3 books It is MVC which has a direct binding between Model and View, not MVP. Take a look at any serious design pattern
find this answer a bit confusing, e.g. "[in] MVP ... actions route through the View to the Presenter. In MVC, every action in the View correlates with a call to a Controller along with an action" Isn't that just switching terminology?: "Presenter" vs "Controller"? How is "route through" different from "correlate with"? Perhaps Also, "One other big difference about MVC is that the View does not directly bind to the Model" - the phrase "about MVC" isn't clear which pattern is the one where the view doesn't bind directly? My understanding is that in MVC, the view accesses model directly, while in MVP, the presenter is always between the two. Seems like the sentence could be clearer as: "One other big difference of MVP from MVC is that ...." Sorry for the nits, but as someone trying to understand MVP vs MVC, these clarifications would improve the answer to help future newbies like me. Yes, there needs to be a clarification of MVC where "the view does not directly bind to the model". In MVC there is interaction between the model and view. The MVP design pattern implementation has a view that is totally unaware of the model. The Presenter is the one exclusively communicating with the model About this: "This differs from MVP where actions route through the View to the Presenter." But, even in MVC an user clicks on views (like button, forms, a_href link etc), so does it mean that in MVC everything starts from the view as For a long time I used to think I was doing MVC "wrong" in my ASP.Net web apps. I didn't mind because the job was getting done and I thought the apps had good consistent logical flow and were easy to maintain. I always expected someone to give me grief about my bastardised approach to MVC. When I started working alot more with other developers, I once sheepishly gave a long winded explaination my "customised" approach to MVC in web apps. When I finally finished someone said "oh, you mean MVP". rism Feb 12 '13 at 23:57
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It's confusing because: Asking about 2 patterns getting explanation for 3 patterns + adding some variations for MVP. Newbies will still need ouldn't call MVP an anti-pattern, as later in the post "..the rest [including MVP] are just differing flavours of [MVC]..", which would imply that if MVP was an anti-pattern, so was MVC... it's just a flavor for a different framework's approach. (Now, some specific MVP implementations might be more or less desirable than some specific MVC implementations for different tasks...) user166390 Jun 15 '12 at 19:31